Should you shoot Prores/DNxHD/DNxHR over XAVC S?


Here are my recommendations on the Prores/DNxHR(HD) vs XAVC S problem. First, the differences between Prores and DNxHR/HD: On Macs, choose Prores, period. If you are handed DNxHR/HD, you can work with it if you download the Avid codecs for QT pack (free). On PCs, DNxHD/HR is preferable. Prores will play if you have QT, ... Read more

Here are my recommendations on the Prores/DNxHR(HD) vs XAVC S problem. First, the differences between Prores and DNxHR/HD:

  • On Macs, choose Prores, period. If you are handed DNxHR/HD, you can work with it if you download the Avid codecs for QT pack (free).
  • On PCs, DNxHD/HR is preferable. Prores will play if you have QT, but I’ve found it’s always slower on PCs for some reason.
  • DNxHR for 4K, DNxHD for 1080p.

Here’s a quick chart of the variants available and their data rates (specific to the a7S II and a7R II only):

For 1080p30 (in Mbps)
XAVC S (8-bit) 50
Prores HQ (10-bit) 220
Prores 422 (8-bit) 147
Prores LT (8-bit) 102
DNxHD 220x (10-bit) 220
DNxHD 220 (8-bit) 220
DHxHD 145 (8-bit) 145
DNxHD 45 (8-bit) 45
For 4K (in Mbps)
XAVC S (8-bit) 100
Prores HQ (10-bit) 884
Prores 422 (8-bit) 589
Prores LT (8-bit) 410
DNxHD HQX (10-bit) 699
DNxHD HQ (8-bit) 699
DHxHD SQ (8-bit) 462
DNxHD LB (8-bit) 143

Here are some important resources to learn more about Prores/DNxHD/DNxHR:

Now follow this simple flowchart:

1. Are you shooting chroma keys? Or is there compositing work involved?

If yes, shoot Prores HQ/DNxHR(HD) HQ/HQX.

If no, go to step 2.

2. When grading, will you be using more than one power window or mask per shot? Or Will you need multiple renders of a shot?

If yes, shoot Prores HQ/DNxHR(HD) HQ/HQX.

If no, go to step 3.

3. Are you shooting for strict broadcast delivery (10-bit 4:2:2)?

If yes, go to step 5.

If no, go to step 4.

4. Will my work be sent to a post house or studio who will convert to Prores/DNxHD/DNxHR anyway?

If yes, go to step 5.

If no, shoot XAVC S.

5. Will there be any grading at all?

If yes, shoot Prores HQ/DNxHD/DNxHR HQ/HQX.

If no, shoot Prores LT/DNxHD 145/DNxHR LB.

6. Are you shooting 4K or 1080p?

For 4K, go to step 7.

For 1080p, shoot XAVC S.

7. Do you have a slow computer (i3, i5 or low-end i7 processor)?

If yes, shoot either Prores LT or DNxHR LB. XAVC S 4K needs a good CPU to decompress in realtime.

If no, stick to XAVC S.

Bottom line

I think it’s worthwhile to go big or go home. If you’re opting for an external recorder for its color grading/chroma keying advantages, shoot HQ/HQX. Forget about the other variants.

However, if you’re opting for an external recorder because XAVC S 4K is slow on your computer, you can stick to the lowest setting because that would be equivalent to XAVC S 4K.

For a detailed comparison of internal vs external codecs, check out Comparison of XAVC S vs Prores vs DNxHR.

FAQs

Should you use Prores LT or 422, or DNxHD 145 or DNxHR SQ/LB?

For general work, I recommend XAVC S over either Prores 422 or LT, or DNxHD 145 or DNxHR LB/SQ. For the times you need Prores/DNxHR, you need HQ/HQX and the data cushion it provides.

When should you NOT shoot Prores?

If you’re a Windows user, avoid Prores.

I’m grading my movie or project in Resolve or Speedgrade. Should I choose XAVC S or Prores HQ or DNxHD 220x?

XAVC S is okay for all normal to medium grading work, which is 99% of projects, even cinema-quality ones.

How do you know when to use Prores HQ or DNxHD 220x or DNxHR HQ/HQX? Here are some questions to ask yourself:

  • Will I use more than one power window or mask?
  • Is there any compositing work involved?
  • Is there some extreme noise reduction to be performed?
  • Will my work be sent to a post house or studio who will convert to Prores anyway?
  • Is my work intended to be delivered to broadcast (10-bit, 4:2:2)?

If the answer to any of the above is yes, then shoot Prores/DNxHD/DNxHR.

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Sareesh Sudhakaran is a film director and award-winning cinematographer with over 24 years of experience. His second film, "Gin Ke Dus", was released in theaters in India in March 2024. As an educator, Sareesh walks the talk. His online courses help aspiring filmmakers realize their filmmaking dreams. Sareesh is also available for hire on your film!